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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:07 pm 
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Just as another theory I think maybe the open circle seen in examples 2, 4 and 5 up there is maybe a boat? And the black dot is a person. When the 2 creatures are talking, I think they found the empty boat and are asking each other about it, wondering where the person who brought it might be. Then Dang says she's leaving the black dot is inside the white circle, meaning she'll leave in her boat.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:06 am 
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I'm going to hazard a guess that the latest one means "top."


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 Post subject: Pictoramifications.
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Or perhaps lethal UV exposure. The squiggly line in the center of the glyph could be a literal "spike" graph.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:20 am 
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The way it's said more than once, the second time obviously louder, it may simply be a curse word.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:15 pm 
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Too few symbols for deductive reasoning or common recurrence checking. We need to add inductive reasoning.
Pg:20; The Bloodsacks enter their hideout thinking all is normal.
BSK tan ;"It' getting late . Let's eat."
BSK brick; "The fog will be coming."
Pg 21; BSK brick notices the shovel out of place.
Pg 23; Dang shouts UV weapon in "English" so the sun in the jaws means UV or UV danger.
Dang then says she is "..going to go." The symbol looks like a setting sun. I suppose it could be idiom for [this is over/finished/ I depart]
Pg 25; BSK tan; Are you safe from the sun/UV? "Are you OK?"
BSK brick; symbol that looks like a very sad face. Is repeated in next panel w/ more vehemence. So one idea is "She hurt me." "She hurt me a lot." OR "Get her." "(go) GET HER!!"

All of this aside, the BSKs are intelligent, fore thoughtful, and there is enough commerce between the humans and the whatevers that humans can learn some of the BSK language.

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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:40 pm 
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Smashy wrote:
Just as another theory I think maybe the open circle seen in examples 2, 4 and 5 up there is maybe a boat? And the black dot is a person. When the 2 creatures are talking, I think they found the empty boat and are asking each other about it, wondering where the person who brought it might be. Then Dang says she's leaving the black dot is inside the white circle, meaning she'll leave in her boat.


That seems to fit well also Smashy.
panel 1; "The sun is getting hot/dangerous." sun driving out night with extreme mark.
panel 2; "Someone got off a boat on the river. We should hunt them."
"Catch them tonight. Down by the water."

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 Post subject: AND A SIDE OF HAAAAAAAM! AT THE DIIIIIINEEEEEEER!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:02 am 
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I think we ALL know what this latest pictogram means. Beyond the penumbra of a doubt.
Skullhead McBirdfoot wrote:
NEXT TIME, DANG THU MAI! NEEEEEXT TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!
Actually it probably is a summation of Iron Hand's current condition (or death) as their pictogram is encompassed by a a wider symbol.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:00 pm 
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I agree Vilakata. That is the Iron Hand picto' in a picto' of jaws.
Half Armor: "Iron Hand is dead."
And maybe I'm reading in too much but, fogger Redbeard seems to go from examining the pinwheel to crushing it. The fogger was curious but then destroyed the token of the person that killed his tribes(man/woman?)
Late breaking speculation: Iron Hand was her strapping baby boy!

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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:34 pm 
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You have all missed the point. Clearly it says Iron Hand is now Toad.

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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
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Aliens from outer space drop a few nanobot infested hunks of ice from the outer reaches of the solar system onto the earth in preparation for the colonization wave that follows WITH the SECRET cooperation of the naive leaders that have been lead to think that a great and beneficial technological advancement will occur hence the limited yet basic communication skills that are presented in this work ... or rouge scientists either accidentally (lab +human+error=DOH) or on purpose(global warming+melting ice caps+evolve (or die) attitude)
but the language would have to be invented in these second 2 cases taking all bets ... lol


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:35 pm 
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Ok, the symbol in the first panel here: http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=77

I'm fairly sure it means death, or kill. We had it with Iron Hand earlier, surrounding his/her name: http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=31 This was presumably after Dang killed him/her.


It also shows up here: http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=76 Perhaps as some kind of death threat?

I've also worked out that 'UV Weapon' must thus mean something like 'Sunlight death', since it's a sun surrounded by a 'death' symbol: http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=23



I also think that the double claw symbol found here: http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=20
and here:http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=66

Can be seen here: http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=76 in the second last panel.

Maybe it has something to do with attacking?


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:48 pm 
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and now we have a new pictographic word for pinwheel and the surrounding part ....death to the/all pinwheels ...
http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=94

noting the direction as right to left on page 94 as an active/actionable thing to do and on page http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=31 as an top to bottom as something that is now done/finished
leaving bottom to top for the future and left to right as something from the past or everything is reversed ..but the principle stands as far as i can tell

also noting here that exposure to the "fog" would probably be the reason she has the language skills to speak picto-speech in the first place http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=23
and when the word(http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=91) hunt is yelled out it wouldn't have been in the"human language" but more likely thier picto-speech


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:12 pm 
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The speech bubble saying "hunt" on strip 91 is a pictogram on strip 66. The scenes seem to match up.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:42 pm 
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http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=20 - bottom of the page, they say the same pictogram.

So does this mean... "We will hunt when the sun goes down?"


I'm still fairly sure that part of the pictogram here

http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=31

means dead or death.

It comes up again on the page that just went up, where he's saying

http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=94

but rotated slightly to the right. Perhaps that indicates the future tense? "Windmill people will die"

(To confirm that it means something to do with death:

http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=77)


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:57 am 
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DocClaw wrote:
The speech bubble saying "hunt" on strip 91 is a pictogram on strip 66. The scenes seem to match up.



so the 91 is the flashback(all wavy lines/grey) and the 66 is the arbutus playback(still impressed with the camera coverage there)..even as the city crumbles the surveillance never stops

but still there is one direct translation And a few implied translations to work on here.....
slowly chipping away at it
and in either case .. is it a test tube or flashlight


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:13 pm 
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http://derelictcomic.com/?strip_id=91

Based on panel 2 of that page, it's gotta be a flashlight.

It looks like Dang just grabbed whatever was close to hand.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:58 pm 
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Thiiiiiiiis isn't want the pictograms thread is for anyway, so let me just shed light (PUN!) on this.

It's a flashlight. At this point in the story I think you can settle that with Occam's Razor. We see the flashlight. We see her reaching for the flashlight. We never see any evidence of her looking for testtubes while in the city Primrose.

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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:43 am 
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I think the pinwheel pictogram is just what they call Dang; since they wouldn't know her name, just her calling card. You see this kind of naming happening a lot in japanese culture, rather than "the guy in the straw hat" you are just "straw hat"; to use an example that some may be familiar with. =P


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 Post subject: Re: Pictograms
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Anyone els trying to translate the Miasmic language now when the pdf-version is out?

Am I wrong or is the first miasmic guys we see talking about... sex? =)


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